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05:0297(41)CA
The decision of the Authority follows:
5 FLRA No. 41 U.S. CUSTOMS SERVICE, REGION VII LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA Respondent and NATIONAL TREASURY EMPLOYEES UNION Charging Party Case No. 8-CA-193 DECISION AND ORDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE IN THE ABOVE-ENTITLED PROCEEDING ISSUED HIS DECISION AND ORDER FINDING THAT THE RESPONDENT HAD ENGAGED IN THE UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES ALLEGED IN THE COMPLAINT, AND RECOMMENDING THAT IT CEASE AND DESIST THEREFROM AND TAKE CERTAIN AFFIRMATIVE ACTION AS SET FORTH IN THE ATTACHED ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE'S DECISION AND ORDER. THEREAFTER, THE RESPONDENT FILED EXCEPTIONS TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE'S DECISION AND ORDER, AND THE GENERAL COUNSEL AND THE CHARGING PARTY FILED OPPOSITIONS TO SUCH EXCEPTIONS. THEREFORE, PURSUANT TO SECTION 2423.29 OF THE AUTHORITY'S RULES AND REGULATIONS (5 CFR 2423.29) AND SECTION 7118 OF THE FEDERAL SERVICE LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS STATUTE (5 U.S.C. 7101-7135), THE AUTHORITY HAS REVIEWED THE RULINGS OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE MADE AT THE HEARING AND FINDS THAT NO PREJUDICIAL ERROR WAS COMMITTED. THE RULINGS ARE HEREBY AFFIRMED. UPON CONSIDERATION OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE'S DECISION AND ORDER AND THE ENTIRE RECORD IN THE SUBJECT CASE, INCLUDING THE EXCEPTIONS OF SUCH EXCEPTIONS, THE AUTHORITY HEREBY ADOPTS THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE'S FINDINGS, CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATION, AS MODIFIED HEREIN. ORDER /1/ PURSUANT TO SECTION 2423.29 OF THE FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY'S RULES AND REGULATIONS AND SECTION 7118 OF THE STATUTE, THE AUTHORITY HEREBY ORDERS THAT THE U.S. CUSTOMS SERVICE, REGION VII, LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, SHALL: 1. CEASE AND DESIST FROM: (A) REFUSING OR FAILING TO AFFORD AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE NATIONAL TREASURY EMPLOYEES UNION, OR ANY OTHER EXCLUSIVE REPRESENTATIVE OF ITS EMPLOYEES, TO BE REPRESENTED AT AN EXAMINATION OF MARIA ANTONIETA VALDEZ, OR ANY OTHER BARGAINING UNIT EMPLOYEE, IN CONNECTION WITH A SUBSEQUENT INVESTIGATION HEREIN, OR ANY OTHER INVESTIGATION WHICH COULD REASONABLY RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST HER OR SUCH EMPLOYEE WHEN SUCH REPRESENTATION IS REQUESTED BY THE EMPLOYEE. (B) IN ANY LIKE OR RELATED MANNER INTERFERING WITH, RESTRAINING, OR COERCING ITS EMPLOYEES IN THE EXERCISE OF THEIR RIGHTS ASSURED BY THE FEDERAL SERVICE LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS STATUTE. 2. TAKE THE FOLLOWING AFFIRMATIVE ACTION IN ORDER TO EFFECTUATE THE PURPOSES AND POLICIES OF THE STATUTE: (A) WITHDRAW AND REMOVE FROM THE PERSONNEL FOLDER OF MARIA ANTONIETA VALDEZ THE REPRIMAND LETTER, DATED JUNE 15, 1979, AND ANY OTHER REFERENCES TO THE DISCIPLINARY ACTION WHICH IT ISSUED AGAINST HER ARISING OUT OF THE EVENTS OF DECEMBER 9, 1978. (B) AFFORD THE NATIONAL TREASURY EMPLOYEES UNION, OR ANY OTHER EXCLUSIVE REPRESENTATIVE OF ITS EMPLOYEES, THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE FULLY REPRESENTED AT ANY EXAMINATION OF AN EMPLOYEE IN THE UNIT BY A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE AGENCY IN CONNECTION WITH AN INVESTIGATION IF THE EMPLOYEE REASONABLY BELIEVES THAT THE EXAMINATION MAY RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST THE EMPLOYEE AND THE EMPLOYEE REQUESTS SUCH REPRESENTATION. (C) POST AT ITS FACILITIES AT U.S. CUSTOMS SERVICE, REGION VII, LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, COPIES OF THE ATTACHED NOTICE MARKED "APPENDIX" ON FORMS TO BE FURNISHED BY THE FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY. UPON RECEIPT OF SUCH FORMS THEY SHALL BE SIGNED BY THE REGIONAL COMMISSIONER, U.S. CUSTOMS SERVICE, REGION VII, AND THEY SHALL BE POSTED AND MAINTAINED BY HIM FOR 60 CONSECUTIVE DAYS THEREAFTER, IN CONSPICUOUS PLACES, INCLUDING ALL BULLETIN BOARDS AND OTHER PLACES WHERE NOTICES TO EMPLOYEES ARE CUSTOMARILY POSTED. THE REGIONAL COMMISSIONER SHALL TAKE REASONABLE STEPS TO ENSURE THAT SUCH NOTICES ARE NOT ALTERED, DEFACED, OR COVERED BY ANY OTHER MATERIAL. (D) PURSUANT TO SECTION 2423.30 OF THE AUTHORITY'S RULES AND REGULATIONS, NOTIFY THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR, REGION VIII, FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY, IN WRITING, WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS ORDER, AS TO WHAT STEPS HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO COMPLY HEREWITH. ISSUED, WASHINGTON, D.C., MARCH 19, 1981 RONALD W. HAUGHTON, CHAIRMAN HENRY B. FRAZIER III, MEMBER LEON B. APPLEWHAITE, MEMBER FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY APPENDIX NOTICE TO ALL EMPLOYEES PURSUANT TO A DECISION AND ORDER OF THE FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY AND IN ORDER TO EFFECTUATE THE POLICIES OF CHAPTER 71 OF TITLE 5 OF THE UNITED STATES CODE FEDERAL SERVICE LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS WE HEREBY NOTIFY OUR EMPLOYEES THAT: WE WILL NOT REFUSE OR FAIL TO AFFORD AN OPPORTUNITY TO THE NATIONAL TREASURY EMPLOYEES UNION, OR ANY OTHER EXCLUSIVE REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR EMPLOYEES, TO BE REPRESENTED AT AN EXAMINATION OF MARIA ANTONIETA VALDEZ, OR ANY OTHER BARGAINING UNIT EMPLOYEE, IN CONNECTION WITH A SUBSEQUENT INVESTIGATION HEREIN, OR ANY OTHER INVESTIGATION WHICH COULD REASONABLY RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST HER OR SUCH EMPLOYEE, WHEN SUCH REPRESENTATION IS REQUESTED BY THE EMPLOYEE. WE WILL NOT IN ANY LIKE OR RELATED MANNER INTERFERE WITH, RESTRAIN, OR COERCE OUR EMPLOYEES IN THE EXERCISE OF THEIR RIGHTS ASSURED BY THE FEDERAL SERVICE LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS STATUTE. WE WILL WITHDRAW AND REMOVE FROM THE PERSONNEL FOLDER OF MARIA ANTONIETA VALDEZ THE REPRIMAND LETTER, DATED JUNE 15, 1979, AND ANY OTHER REFERENCES TO THE DISCIPLINARY ACTION ISSUED AGAINST HER ARISING OUT OF THE EVENTS OF DECEMBER 9, 1978. WE WILL AFFORD THE NATIONAL TREASURY EMPLOYEES UNION, OR ANY OTHER EXCLUSIVE REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR EMPLOYEES, THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE FULLY REPRESENTED AT ANY EXAMINATION OF AN EMPLOYEE IN THE UNIT BY A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE AGENCY IN CONNECTION WITH AN INVESTIGATION IF THE EMPLOYEE REASONABLY BELIEVES THAT THE EXAMINATION MAY RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST THE EMPLOYEE AND THE EMPLOYEE REQUESTS SUCH REPRESENTATION. DATED: . . . BY: . . . (SIGNATURE) REGIONAL COMMISSIONER, REGION VII, U.S. CUSTOMS SERVICE THIS NOTICE MUST REMAIN POSTED FOR 60 CONSECUTIVE DAYS FROM THE DATE OF POSTING, AND MUST NOT BE ALTERED, DEFACED, OR COVERED BY ANY OTHER MATERIAL. IF EMPLOYEES HAVE ANY QUESTIONS CONCERNING THIS NOTICE OR COMPLIANCE WITH ITS PROVISIONS, THEY MAY COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR THE FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY WHOSE ADDRESS IS: 350 SOUTH FIGUEROA STREET, 10TH FLOOR, LOS ANGELES, CA, 90071, AND WHOSE TELEPHONE NUMBER IS (213) 688-3805. -------------------- ALJ$ DECISION FOLLOWS -------------------- DONNA RAE EIDE, ESQUIRE GARY LANDSMAN, ESQUIRE FOR THE RESPONDENT SILVIA M. DIAZ, ESQUIRE GERALD M. COLE, ESQUIRE FOR THE GENERAL COUNSEL CAROL W. PERKINS, ESQUIRE FOR THE CHARGING PARTY BEFORE: WILLIAM NAIMARK ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE DECISION STATEMENT OF THE CASE PURSUANT TO A COMPLAINT AND NOTICE OF HEARING ISSUED ON MARCH 3, 1980 BY THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR FOR THE FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY, LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, A HEARING WAS HELD BEFORE THE UNDERSIGNED ON MAY 13, 1980. THIS PROCEEDING AROSE UNDER THE FEDERAL SERVICE LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS STATUTE (HEREIN CALLED THE ACT). IT IS BASED ON A CHARGE FILED ON AUGUST 22, 1979 BY THE NATIONAL TREASURY EMPLOYEES UNION (HEREIN CALLED THE UNION OR CHARGING PARTY) AGAINST U.S. CUSTOMS SERVICE, REGION VII, LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA (HEREIN CALLED THE EMPLOYER OR RESPONDENT). THE COMPLAINT ALLEGED, IN SUBSTANCE, THAT RESPONDENT CONDUCTED AN INVESTIGATORY INTERVIEW OF EMPLOYEE MARIA ANTONIETA VALDEZ ON APRIL 13, 1979 BUT DENIED THE LATTER'S EXCLUSIVE REPRESENTATIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN A REPRESENTATIVE CAPACITY ON HER BEHALF. SUCH DENIAL OCCURRED, IT WAS AVERRED, DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE EMPLOYEE HAD REASONABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THAT DISCIPLINARY ACTION COULD BE TAKEN AGAINST HER. BASED ON THE FOREGOING IT WAS ALLEGED RESPONDENT FAILED OR REFUSED TO COMPLY WITH SECTION 7114(A)(2)(B)(I)(II) OF THE ACT; FURTHER, THAT RESPONDENT VIOLATED SECTIONS 7116(A)(1) AND (8) OF THE ACT BY THE AFORESAID CONDUCT. AN ANSWER DATED MARCH 28, 1980 WAS FILED BY RESPONDENT IN WHICH IT DENIED THE COMMISSION OF ANY UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICES. MOREOVER, THE ANSWER AVERRED THAT EMPLOYEE VALDEZ'S UNION REPRESENTATIVE WAS PRESENT AT THE INVESTIGATORY INTERVIEW AND WAS AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN A REPRESENTATIVE CAPACITY. ALL PARTIES WERE REPRESENTED AT THE HEARING. EACH WAS AFFORDED FULL OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD, TO ADDUCE EVIDENCE, AND TO EXAMINE AS WELL AS CROSS-EXAMINE WITNESSES. THEREAFTER BRIEFS WERE FILED WITH THE UNDERSIGNED WHICH HAVE BEEN DULY CONSIDERED. UPON THE ENTIRE RECORD IN THIS CASE, FROM MY OBSERVATION OF THE WITNESSES AND THEIR DEMEANOR, AND FROM ALL OF THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE ADDUCED AT THE HEARING, I MAKE THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONCLUSIONS: FINDINGS OF FACT 1. MARIA ANTONIETA VALDEZ (HEREIN CALLED VALDEZ) HAS BEEN EMPLOYED BY RESPONDENT SINCE 1974 AT SAN YSIDRO, CALIFORNIA, WHICH IS THE PORT OF ENTRY FROM MEXICO. 2. ON DECEMBER 9, 1978 VALDEZ CROSSED THE BORDER FROM MEXICO, EN ROUTE TO SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA, IN THE COMPANY OF HER SISTER AND A BABY BELONGING TO ANOTHER WOMAN. THE IMMIGRATION OFFICIALS AT SAN YSIDRO QUESTIONED VALDEZ SINCE THEY SUSPECTED SHE WAS IN THE PROCESS OF ILLEGALLY SMUGGLING AN ALIEN INTO THE UNITED STATES. 3. PREPARATORY TO CONDUCTING AN INVESTIGATION OF THE AFORESAID INCIDENT, DONALD FARRELL, WHO WAS THE RESPONDENT'S RESIDENT AGENT, OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND INTEGRITY, TELEPHONED VALDEZ ON MARCH 28, 1979 TO ARRANGE AN INTERVIEW. AFTER NOTIFICATION WAS GIVEN BY VALDEZ TO THE BARGAINING AGENT, NATIONAL TREASURY EMPLOYEES UNION, THE SAID UNION ASSIGNED ALAN HERSCH, ASSOCIATE GENERAL COUNSEL, TO REPRESENT THE EMPLOYEE DURING THE INVESTIGATION. HERSCH THEN CALLED FARRELL AND INFORMED THE RESPONDENT'S OFFICIAL THAT HE WAS VALDEZ'S REPRESENTATIVE. AFTER EXPLAINING TO HERSCH THE PURPOSE OF THE INTERVIEW, FARRELL STATED THAT ANY DISCIPLINE DIRECTED TOWARD VALDEZ WOULD BE WITHIN THE AGENCY; THAT NO CRIMINAL PUNISHMENT WOULD ENSUE, SINCE THE U.S. ATTORNEY DID NOT INTEND TO PROSECUTE THE MATTER. A MEETING WAS SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 13. 4. BOTH HERSCH AND VALDEZ APPEARED ON APRIL 13 FOR THE INTERVIEW. HERSCH INTRODUCED HIMSELF TO FARRELL AS THE EMPLOYEE'S UNION REPRESENTATIVE. ALL THREE INDIVIDUALS THEN WENT INTO FARRELL'S OFFICE WHERE THEY WERE JOINED BY HOWARD DILKES, SPECIAL AGENT WITH THE RESPONDENT'S OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND INTEGRITY. AT THE OUTSET FARRELL EXPLAINED THAT UNDER HIS STANDARD PROCEDURE FOR CONDUCTING INVESTIGATIONS THERE WOULD BE AN INITIAL INFORMAL INTERVIEW. HE STATED THAT THE PURPOSE OF THE INFORMAL SESSION WAS TO ENABLE VALDEZ TO GATHER HER THOUGHTS AND REFRESH HER RECOLLECTION; THAT SOMETIMES EMPLOYEES ARE UNDER STRESS WHEN BEING QUESTIONED; AND THAT THE INTERVIEW WAS ADMINISTRATIVE AND NOT CRIMINAL IN NATURE. FARRELL ALSO INFORMED THEM THAT THE INFORMAL SESSION WOULD BE FOLLOWED BY A TAPE-RECORDING SESSION, AT WHICH TIME HE WOULD TAPE QUESTIONS DIRECTED TOWARD VALDEZ AS WELL AS HER ANSWERS. THE RESIDENT AGENT FURTHER EXPLAINED THAT DURING THE FIRST SESSION, DURING WHICH QUESTIONS WOULD BE DIRECTED TO VALDEZ, HER REPRESENTATIVE WOULD BE PERMITTED TO PARTICIPATE. FARRELL STATED THAT THE SECOND SESSION WOULD INVOLVE A RECORDING, OR TAPING, OF QUESTIONS ASKED OF VALDEZ AND ANSWERS GIVEN BY HER. HOWEVER, HE ASSERTED THAT DURING THE TAPING HERSCH WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK OR MAKE ANY STATEMENTS; /2/ THAT MANAGEMENT WAS ANXIOUS TO OBTAIN VALDEZ'S VERSION OF WHAT OCCURRED AND NOT A REPORT FROM HER REPRESENTATIVE, AND NO INTERRUPTIONS OR COMMENTS WERE TO BE MADE BY HERSCH DURING THE TAPING. 5. AFTER FARRELL EXPLAINED THE PROCEDURE WHICH WOULD BE FOLLOWED DURING THE INVESTIGATION, BOTH VALDEZ AND HERSCH REGISTERED OBJECTIONS THERETO. THEY OBJECTED TO THE PROHIBITIONS PLACED ON THE UNION REPRESENTATIVE, AND HERSCH INSISTED HE SHOULD BE PERMITTED TO SPEAK DURING THE TAPING. FARRELL SAID THE UNION AGENT HAD NO NEED TO TALK DURING THE RECORDED SESSION; THAT HE WOULD HAVE FULL OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO IN THE INITIAL SESSION; THAT IF HERSCH DID SPEAK OR INTERRUPT WHILE THE TAPING OCCURRED, VALDEZ WOULD BE HELD RESPONSIBLE AND IF REFUSAL TO REPLY COULD BE GROUNDS FOR DISCIPLINE. /3/ THE RESIDENT AGENT FURTHER COMMENTED THAT THE MATERIAL COVERED AT THE TAPING SESSION WOULD BE THE SAME AS DISCUSSED AT THE INFORMAL SESSION; THAT WHILE THE QUESTIONS MIGHT NOT BE IDENTICAL, THERE WOULD BE NO ATTEMPT TO COVER DIFFERENT GROUND OR POSE TRICK QUESTIONS. 6. DURING THE INFORMAL STAGE OF THE INTERVIEW FARRELL ASKED VALDEZ TO EXPLAIN WHAT OCCURRED ON DECEMBER 9. IN RESPONSE TO THE EMPLOYEE'S REQUEST, HE ASKED SPECIFIC QUESTIONS DURING THE INFORMAL INTERVIEW, ALTHOUGH NO LIST HAD BEEN PREPARED BY FARRELL BEFOREHAND. DURING THE "PRACTICE" SESSION HERSCH MADE SEVERAL OBJECTIONS, COMMENTED OCCASIONALLY, TOOK NOTES, AND ASSISTED IN CLARIFYING SOME OF THE QUESTIONS POSED BY MANAGEMENT. NO ATTEMPT WAS MADE TO RESTRICT HERSCH AT THIS STAGE OF THE INVESTIGATION, ALTHOUGH HE CONTINUED TO PROTEST THE PROCEDURE ADOPTED BY MANAGEMENT. ALL QUESTIONS ASKED BY FARRELL WERE ANSWERED BY VALDEZ. 7. UPON THE COMPLETION OF THE INFORMAL SESSION THE PARTIES RECESSED FOR LUNCH. THE TAPING SESSION TOOK PLACE WHEN THEY RETURNED TO FARRELL'S OFFICE. BEFORE COMMENCING THIS SECOND INTERVIEW, RESPONDENT'S REPRESENTATIVE REPEATED THE ADMONITION THAT NO INTERRUPTION FROM HERSCH WOULD BE COUNTENANCED; THAT IF VALDEZ REFUSED TO ANSWER, FARRELL WOULD SEND UP THE REPORT TO MR. BURGESON, REGIONAL COMMISSIONER, WITHOUT HER INPUT. FARRELL MADE IT CLEAR THAT HERSCH WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO MAKE OBJECTIONS OR STATEMENTS ON THE TAPED RECORD. HERSCH AND VALDEZ CONTINUED TO INSIST THAT THE LATTER WAS BEING DENIED REPRESENTATION. HERSCH ALSO REQUESTED THAT THE RESTRICTIONS ANNOUNCED BY FARRELL BE PLACED ON THE TAPE BUT THE EMPLOYER'S AGENT REFUSED TO DO SO. 8. THE TAPING PORTION OF THE INTERVIEW CONSISTED OF QUESTIONS DIRECTED TO VALDEZ AND HER ANSWERS IN REPLY THERETO. FARRELL HAD NOT PREPARED A LIST OF QUESTIONS BUT POSED THEM AS A RESULT OF THE INFORMAL INTERVIEW CONDUCTED EARLIER THAT DAY. RECORD FACTS REVEAL THE QUESTIONS ASKED DURING THE TAPED SESSION WERE DIFFERENT IN FORM THAN THOSE POSED IN THE MORNING; HOWEVER, THESE QUESTIONS COVERED THE SAME GROUND OR SUBJECT MATTER AS EXPLORED IN THE INFORMAL INTERVIEW, AND WITH ONE EXCEPTION /4/ THERE WERE NO NEW ITEMS RAISED IN THE SECOND INTERVIEW. JUST PRIOR TO THE END OF THE TAPING, FARRELL TURNED OFF THE TAPE TO ALLOW VALDEZ TO VOLUNTEER ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AT THIS POINT HERSCH WHISPERED TO VALDEZ AND THE LATTER MENTIONED THAT SHE HAD BEEN DENIED PROPER UNION REPRESENTATION. /5/ THIS CONCLUDED THE TAPED SESSION. 9. ABOUT A WEEK LATER FARRELL GAVE VALDEZ THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE TAPED SESSION AND ASKED HER TO SIGN SAME. SINCE SHE HAD SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE TRANSCRIPT, VALDEZ DEFERRED SIGNING IT. THEREAFTER SHE MAILED A COPY THEREOF TO HERSCH WHO WANTED TO EXAMINE IT. VALDEZ DID NOT SIGN THE TRANSCRIPT AS REQUESTED. 10. SUBSEQUENT TO THE INVESTIGATION CONDUCTED ON APRIL 13, FARRELL SENT IN HIS REPORT TO THE REGIONAL COMMISSIONER. WHILE HIS REPORT CONTAINS INFORMATION RE THE BASIS OF THE INVESTIGATION AND WHAT OCCURRED THEREAT, THE ONLY EXACT STATEMENTS OF VALDEZ CONCERNING THE INCIDENT ON DECEMBER 9, 1979 WERE CONTAINED IN THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE TAPED INTERVIEW. 11. A LETTER OF REPRIMAND, DATED JUNE 15, 1979, WAS ISSUED BY RESPONDENT TO VALDEZ FOR HAVING BROUGHT A BABY INTO THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT DECLARING THE INFANT TO BE A MEXICAN CITIZEN. THE LETTER WAS PLACED IN VALDEZ'S PERSONNEL FOLDER FOR A PERIOD NOT TO EXCEED THREE YEARS. CONCLUSION THE CENTRAL ISSUE HEREIN IS WHETHER RESPONDENT FAILED TO PROVIDE VALDEZ'S UNION REPRESENTATIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE REPRESENTED AT THE INVESTIGATORY INTERVIEW OF THE EMPLOYEE ON APRIL 13, 1980-- ALL AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 7114(A)(2)(B) OF THE ACT. IT IS CONTENDED BY THE GENERAL COUNSEL THAT THE REFUSAL TO ALLOW UNION AGENT HERSCH TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TAPED PORTION OF THE INVESTIGATION FLOUTED THE AFORESAID REQUIREMENT. ACCORDINGLY, IT IS ALLEGED THAT RESPONDENT VIOLATED SECTION 7116(A)(1) AND (8) OF THE ACT. RESPONDENT CONTENDS, CONTRARIWISE, THAT IT AFFORDED FULL OPPORTUNITY TO THE UNION OFFICIAL TO REPRESENT EMPLOYEE VALDEZ AT THE INVESTIGATION. IT AVERS THAT HERSCH WAS ALLOWED FULL PARTICIPATION AT THE INFORMAL SESSION; THAT RESPONDENT NEVER STOPPED COMMUNICATION BETWEEN VALDEZ AND HER REPRESENTATIVE; THAT THE TAPING SESSION WAS MERELY A 'FORMALIZATION' OF THE EARLIER INTERVIEW; THAT HERSCH WAS PERMITTED TO CONSULT WITH THE EMPLOYEE AT ALL TIMES DURING THE INVESTIGATION; AND THAT JUST PRIOR TO CONDUCTING THE TAPED INTERVIEW VALDEZ WAS ALLOWED TO CONFER WITH HER REPRESENTATIVE AS WELL AS MAKE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THE RECORD. IT INSISTS THAT, UNDER ALL THE CIRCUMSTANCES, HERSCH WAS GRANTED COMPLETE FREEDOM TO ASSIST THE EMPLOYEE. MOREOVER, IT URGES THAT, UNDER NLRB V. J. WEINGARTEN, INC., 420 U.S. 251(1975), IT WAS ENTITLED TO PROCURE A STATEMENT FROM VALDEZ WITHOUT INTERRUPTION AND IN A MILIEU FREE FORM ADVERSERIAL CONTROVERSY. UNDER EXECUTIVE ORDER 11491, AS AMENDED, GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES WERE NOT ACCORDED THE RIGHT TO HAVE UNION REPRESENTATION AT AN INVESTIGATION OR DISCIPLINARY PROCEEDING. WHILE, UPON REQUEST, AN EMPLOYEE COULD BE REPRESENTED BY HIS BARGAINING AGENT AT FORMAL DISCUSSIONS RE GRIEVANCES, PERSONNEL POLICIES AND PRACTICES, HE HAD NO PROTECTED RIGHT TO ASSISTANCE OR REPRESENTATION AT NON-FORMAL INVESTIGATIONS OR INTERVIEWS TO WHICH HE WAS SUMMONED. STATEMENT ON MAJOR POLICY ISSUE, 4 FLRC 710 (DECEMBER 2, 1976). HOWEVER, THIS WAS CHANGED BY THE ENACTMENT OF THE FEDERAL SERVICE LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS STATUTE IN 1978. UNDER THIS ACT IT IS SPECIFICALLY PROVIDED BY SECTION 7114(A)(2) AS FOLLOWS: "AN EXCLUSIVE REPRESENTATIVE OF AN APPROPRIATE UNIT IN AN AGENCY SHALL BE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE REPRESENTED AT - (B) ANY EXAMINATION OF AN EMPLOYEE IN THE UNIT BY A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE AGENCY IN CONNECTION WITH AN INVESTIGATION IF - (I) THE EMPLOYEE REASONABLY BELIEVES THAT THE EXAMINATION MAY RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST THE EMPLOYEE; AND (II) THE EMPLOYEE REQUESTS REPRESENTATION. THE AFORESAID SECTION OF THE ACT REFLECTS THE HOLDING AND THE RATIO DECIDENDI EXPRESSED IN THE WEINGARTEN CASE, SUPRA, BY THE SUPREME COURT IN 1975. WHILE THE CITED CASE AROSE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THERE IS AN OBVIOUS ATTEMPT TO EXTEND THE SAME RIGHT OF REPRESENTATION UNDER SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES TO EMPLOYEES IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR. THIS IS BORNE OUT BY THE ACT'S LEGISLATIVE HISTORY. /6/ THUS, AS STATED BY THE SUPREME COURT, SINCE EMPLOYEES ARE ACCORDED THE RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN CONCERTED ACTIVITIES FOR THEIR MUTUAL AID OR PROTECTION, ACTION TAKEN BY THEM TO SEEK REPRESENTATION AT A CONFRONTATION WITH THEIR EMPLOYER FALLS WITHIN THE AMBIT OF THAT PROTECTION. THE WEINGARTEN DECISION CLEARLY RECOGNIZED THE INEQUITY OF REQUIRING A LONE EMPLOYEE TO ATTEND AN INVESTIGATORY INTERVIEW WHICH HE REASONABLY BELIEVES COULD RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST HIM. MOREOVER, IT IS CONTEMPLATED THAT THE EMPLOYEE MAY BE TOO FEARFUL OR INARTICULATE TO RELATE AN INCIDENT ACCURATELY; THAT THE UNION REPRESENTATIVE COULD ASSIST THE EMPLOYER IN ELICITING THE FACTS AND GET "TO THE BOTTOM OF THE INCIDENT." IN THE CASE AT BAR RESPONDENT ARGUES THAT IT HAS FULFILLED ITS OBLIGATION TO EXTEND UNION REPRESENTATION TO EMPLOYEE VALDEZ AT THE INVESTIGATORY INTERVIEW. I DO NOT AGREE. ALTHOUGH THE RECORD REFLECTS THAT HER REPRESENTATIVE, HERSCH, WAS AFFORDED FULL OPPORTUNITY TO ASSIST VALDEZ AT THE INITIAL INTERVIEW ON APRIL 13, AN IMPORTANT LIMITATION WAS IMPOSED UPON HIM DURING THE TAPED INTERVIEW. THE EMPLOYER INSISTS THAT HERSCH WAS NOT PRECLOSED FROM CONFERRING WITH THE EMPLOYEE WHILE THE TAPING WAS IN PROGRESS, AND THAT VALDEZ WAS PERMITTED TO CONSULT WITH HER REPRESENTATIVE WHEN THE TAPE WAS TURNED OFF NEAR THE CLOSE OF THE SECOND SESSION. NEVERTHELESS, I FIND IT DIFFICULT TO ACCEPT THE ARGUMENT THAT COMPLETE FREEDOM TO ASSIST AND CONSULT EXISTS WHERE THE REPRESENTATIVE IS ADMONISHED NOT TO SPEAK OUT OR MAKE STATEMENTS. IN THAT POSTURE, HOW DOES ONE 'REPRESENT' AN EMPLOYEE? IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT FARRELL INSISTED HERSCH COULD NOT MAKE ANY STATEMENT OR COMMENT DURING THE TAPED INTERVIEW, I CANNOT SUBSCRIBE TO THE VIEW THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE WAS ACCORDED FULL OPPORTUNITY TO ASSIST VALDEZ IN CLARIFYING QUESTIONS AND ELICITING ANSWERS THERETO. RESPONDENT, HOWEVER, ARGUES THAT THE TAPING WAS MERELY A 'FORMALITY'; THAT THE SECOND INTERVIEW COVERED THE SAME GROUND AS THE EARLIER INTERVIEW AT WHICH TIME NO RESTRAINT WAS PLACED UPON HERSCH TO SPEAK, OBJECT, OR ASSIST VALDEZ. THE DIFFICULTY WITH THIS POSITION IS THAT THE QUESTIONS IN THE SECOND INTERVIEW WERE NOT THE SAME AS THOSE POSED EARLIER, AT LEAST AS TO FORM, AND THUS THE DIFFERENT PHRASEOLOGY COULD HAVE REQUIRED CLARIFICATION OR ASSISTANCE IN RESPONDING THERETO. IT MAY BE THAT QUESTIONS ASKED IN THE TAPED SESSION COULD HAVE LED TO LEGITIMATE COMMENTS FROM THE UNION REPRESENTATIVE. IF THE LATTER HAS NO VOICE IN PART OF THE INTERVIEW, ONE CAN SCARCELY CONCLUDE THAT THE EMPLOYEE HAS BEEN REPRESENTED AT THE INVESTIGATION. FURTHER, THE REFUSAL TO ALLOW FULL PARTICIPATION BECOMES SIGNIFICANT WHEN IT IS SEEN THAT THE TAPED PORTION OF THE INVESTIGATION-- FROM WHICH HERSCH WAS BARRED-- WAS THE ONLY EMPLOYEE STATEMENT SENT TO THE REGIONAL COMMISSIONER. WHILE RESPONDENT INSISTS THAT HERSCH COULD HAVE PASSED NOTES TO VALDEZ-- AS HE ATTEMPTED TO DO-- DURING THE TAPING, SUCH A PROCEDURE OBVIOUSLY CIRCUMSCRIBES THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE REPRESENTATIVE. I AM NOT PERSUADED THAT THE LATTER MAY RENDER EFFECTIVE ASSISTANCE TO AN EMPLOYEE IF THE EMPLOYER ADAMANTLY INSISTS THAT HE NOT SPEAK NOR MAKE A STATEMENT DURING AN INTERVIEW. FURTHER, IT IS DIFFICULT TO ENDORSE THE PROCEDURE WHEREBY AN INVESTIGATION IS COMPARTMENTALIZED, AND THE UNION REPRESENTATIVE IS ALLOWED PARTICIPATION IN ONLY A PART THEREOF. REPRESENTATION DURING AN EXAMINATION SHOULD NOT, IN MY OPINION, BE RESTRICTED TO A PORTION OF IT. SUCH A LIMITATION IS INCOMPATIBLE WITH THE RIGHT TO BE REPRESENTED AS DECLARED UNDER SECTION 7115(A)(2) OF THE ACT. RESPONDENT FURTHER CONTENDS THAT, UNDER THE WEINGARTEN CASE, IT WAS ENTITLED TO OBTAIN A STATEMENT FROM THE EMPLOYEE WITHOUT INTERRUPTION FROM HER REPRESENTATIVE. MOREOVER, IT HAS A LEGITIMATE INTEREST, AVERS THE EMPLOYER, IN SEEING THAT THE INTERVIEW DOES NOT BECOME ADVERSERIAL IN NATURE. BUT THE SUPREME COURT IN WEINGARTEN DECLARED THAT THE PRESENCE OF THE UNION AGENT "NEED NOT TRANSFORM THE INTERVIEW INTO AN ADVERSARY CONTEST." IT MUST ALSO BE RECOGNIZED THAT THE EMPLOYEE HAS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN WHERE, AS HERE, DISCIPLINARY ACTION TOWARD HER MAY RESULT AFTER THE INVESTIGATION. THUS, SOME INTERRUPTION, BY WAY OF COMMENTS RE THE FORM OF QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS AS TO POSSIBLE INFRINGEMENT OF EMPLOYEE RIGHTS, SHOULD PROPERLY BE EXPECTED FROM THE EMPLOYEE'S REPRESENTATIVE. THE EMPLOYER ALWAYS RETAINS THE OPTION TO REFRAIN FROM CONDUCTING THE EXAMINATION IN THE EVENT IT DECIDES THAT THE INTERVIEW, IN THE PRESENCE OF A UNION REPRESENTATIVE, IS NOT EFFICACIOUS. IN SUM, I AM CONSTRAINED TO FIND THAT THE RIGHT OF REPRESENTATION, EXTENDED BY THE ACT HEREIN, WAS NOT PROPERLY GRANTED BY THE EMPLOYER IN THIS CASE. NEITHER THE FACT THAT HERSCH CONSULTED WITH VALDEZ PRIOR TO, AND DURING THE INFORMAL INTERVIEW, NOR THAT A COPY OF THE TRANSCRIPT WAS ULTIMATELY FURNISHED BOTH INDIVIDUALS, CONVINCES ME THAT RESPONDENT HAS FULFILLED ITS STATUTORY OBLIGATION. IN RESPECT TO THE ESSENCE OF THE INVESTIGATION-- THE INTERVIEW CONDUCTED ON APRIL 13-- THE EMPLOYER FAILED, IN MY OPINION, TO ACCORD FULL REPRESENTATION FOR THE EMPLOYEE. THEREFORE, I CONCLUDE RESPONDENT HAS FAILED TO COMPLY WITH THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS AS AFORESAID AND HAS VIOLATED SECTIONS 7116(A)(1) AND (8). /7/ REMEDY THE RESPONDENT RESISTS THE IMPOSITION OF ANY REMEDY WHICH CALLS FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE REPRIMAND LETTER FROM VALDEZ'S PERSONNEL FILE. IT PREDICATES THIS CONTENTION ON THE THEORY THAT NO NEXUS EXISTS BETWEEN THE INVESTIGATORY INTERVIEW AND THE DISCIPLINARY ACTION SO AS TO JUSTIFY SUCH A REMEDY. THUS, IT ARGUES, ONLY A CEASE AND DESIST ORDER IS WARRANTED IN THE EVENT A VIOLATION EXISTS HEREIN. RECORD FACTS SHOW, HOWEVER, THAT NO DISCIPLINARY ACTION IS TAKEN BY RESPONDENT IN THESE INSTANCES UNTIL AN INVESTIGATORY INTERVIEW IS CONDUCTED AND A FULL REPORT IS TRANSMITTED TO THE REGIONAL COMMISSIONER'S OFFICE. THIS REPORT INCLUDES THE STATEMENT OBTAINED FROM THE EMPLOYEE AT THE INTERVIEW AS WELL AS ANY INFORMATION INCLUDED BY RESPONDENT'S AGENT. THE FACT THAT THE REPRIMAND LETTER DID NOT ALLUDE TO THE INVESTIGATION OR EXAMINATION OF VALDEZ DOES NOT, IN MY OPINION, WARRANT THE INFERENCE THAT THE DISCIPLINE WAS EFFECTED WITHOUT REGARD TO THE INTERVIEW. IT IS REASONABLE TO INFER THAT RESPONDENT DID NOT UNDERTAKE THE INVESTIGATION AS A VAIN GESTURE. NOR MUST ONE ASSUME THAT IF THE EXAMINATION ESTABLISHED VALDEZ'S INNOCENCE TO THE SATISFACTION OF RESPONDENT THE LATTER WOULD HAVE ISSUED THE REPRIMAND LETTER. THE NEXUS, WHICH THE EMPLOYER MAINTAINS IS LACKING, BETWEEN THE INVESTIGATION AND THE ULTIMATE ACTION TAKEN BY RESPONDENT IS APPARENT. IN THE FACE OF A FAILURE TO EXTEND FULL UNION REPRESENTATION TO THE EMPLOYEE AT THE INTERVIEW, THE SUBSEQUENT DISCIPLINE BY THE EMPLOYER JUSTIFIES THE REMOVAL OF THE REPRIMAND LETTER. OTHERWISE, THE CONSEQUENCES OF RESPONDENT'S UNFAIR LABOR PRACTICE REMAINS UNREMEDIED IN RESPECT TO THE EMPLOYEE INVOLVED HEREIN. HAVING FOUND THAT RESPONDENT VIOLATED SECTIONS 7116(A)(1) AND (8) OF THE ACT BY REASON OF ITS FAILURE TO AFFORD MARIA ANTONIETA VALDEZ UNION REPRESENTATION AT AN INVESTIGATORY INTERVIEW ON APRIL 13, 1979, WHICH SHE HAD REASON TO BELIEVE COULD RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST HER, I RECOMMEND THE AUTHORITY ISSUE THE FOLLOWING ORDER. ORDER PURSUANT TO SECTION 7117(A)(7) OF THE FEDERAL LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS STATUTE AND SECTION 2423.29 OF THE RULES AND REGULATIONS, IT IS HEREBY ORDERED THAT U.S. CUSTOMS SERVICE, REGION VII, LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, SHALL: 1. CEASE AND DESIST FROM: (A) REFUSING OR FAILING TO ACCORD AN OPPORTUNITY, UPON REQUEST, TO THE NATIONAL TREASURY EMPLOYEES UNION, OR ANY OTHER EXCLUSIVE REPRESENTATIVE, TO BE REPRESENTED AT AN EXAMINATION OF MARIA ANTONIETA VALDEZ, OR ANY OTHER BARGAINING UNIT EMPLOYEE, IN CONNECTION WITH AN INVESTIGATION WHICH COULD REASONABLY RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST HER OR SUCH EMPLOYEE. (B) IN ANY LIKE OR RELATED MANNER INTERFERING WITH, RESTRAINING OR COERCING EMPLOYEES IN THE EXERCISE OF THEIR RIGHTS ASSURED BY THE ACT. 2. TAKE THE FOLLOWING ACTION IN ORDER TO EFFECTUATE THE PURPOSES AND POLICIES OF THE ACT: (A) WITHDRAW AND REMOVE FROM THE PERSONNEL FOLDER OF MARIA ANTONIETA VALDEZ THE REPRIMAND LETTER, DATED JUNE 15, 1979, WHICH IT ISSUED TO HER FOR ALLEGEDLY BRINGING AN INFANT INTO THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT DECLARING IT TO BE A MEXICAN CITIZEN. (B) POST AT ITS FACILITY AT U.S. CUSTOMS SERVICE, REGION VII, LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA COPIES OF THE ATTACHED NOTICE MARKED "APPENDIX," ON FORMS TO BE FURNISHED BY THE FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY. UPON RECEIPT OF SUCH FORMS THEY SHALL BE SIGNED BY THE REGIONAL COMMISSIONER, U.S. CUSTOMS SERVICE, REGION VII, AND THEY SHALL BE POSTED FOR 60 CONSECUTIVE DAYS THEREAFTER, IN CONSPICUOUS PLACES, INCLUDING ALL PLACES WHERE NOTICES TO EMPLOYEES ARE CUSTOMARILY POSTED. THE REGIONAL COMMISSIONER SHALL TAKE REASONABLE STEPS TO INSURE THAT SUCH NOTICES ARE NOT ALTERED, DEFACED, OR COVERED BY ANY OTHER MATERIAL. (C) NOTIFY THE FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY, IN WRITING, WITHIN 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THIS ORDER WHAT STEPS HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO COMPLY THEREWITH. WILLIAM NAIMARK ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE DATED: JULY 29, 1980 WASHINGTON, D.C. APPENDIX NOTICE TO ALL EMPLOYEES PURSUANT TO A DECISION AND ORDER OF THE FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY AND IN ORDER TO EFFECTUATE THE POLICIES OF THE FEDERAL SERVICE LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS STATUTE WE HEREBY NOTIFY OUR EMPLOYEES THAT: WE WILL NOT REFUSE OR FAIL TO ACCORD AN OPPORTUNITY, UPON REQUEST, TO THE NATIONAL TREASURY EMPLOYEES UNION, OR ANY OTHER EXCLUSIVE REPRESENTATIVE, TO BE REPRESENTED AT AN EXAMINATION OF MARIA ANTONIETA VALDEZ, OR ANY OTHER BARGAINING UNIT EMPLOYEE, IN CONNECTION WITH AN INVESTIGATION WHICH COULD REASONABLY RESULT IN DISCIPLINARY ACTION AGAINST HER OR SUCH EMPLOYEE. WE WILL NOT IN ANY LIKE OR RELATED MANNER INTERFERE WITH, RESTRAIN, OR COERCE OUR EMPLOYEES IN THE EXERCISE OF THEIR RIGHTS ASSURED BY THE FEDERAL SERVICE LABOR-MANAGEMENT RELATIONS STATUTE. WE WILL WITHDRAW AND REMOVE FROM THE PERSONNEL FOLDER OF MARIA ANTONIETA VALDEZ THE REPRIMAND LETTER, DATED JUNE 15, 1979, WHICH WAS ISSUED TO HER FOR ALLEGEDLY BRINGING AN INFANT INTO THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT DECLARING IT TO BE A MEXICAN CITIZEN. (AGENCY OR ACTIVITY) DATED: . . . BY: . . . (SIGNATURE) THIS NOTICE MUST REMAIN POSTED FOR SIXTY (60) CONSECUTIVE DAYS FROM THE DATE OF POSTING, AND MUST NOT BE ALTERED, DEFACED, OR COVERED BY ANY OTHER MATERIAL. IF EMPLOYEES HAVE ANY QUESTION CONCERNING THIS NOTICE OR COMPLIANCE WITH ITS PROVISIONS, THEY MAY COMMUNICATE DIRECTLY WITH THE REGIONAL DIRECTOR, FEDERAL LABOR RELATIONS AUTHORITY, WHOSE ADDRESS IS: 350 SOUTH FIGUEROA STREET, 10TH FLOOR, WORLD TRADE CENTER, LOS ANGELES, CA 90071 AND WHOSE TELEPHONE NUMBER IS: (213) 688-3805. --------------- FOOTNOTES$ --------------- /1/ THE AUTHORITY HAS MODIFIED THE AFFIRMATIVE PORTION OF THE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE'S ORDER (PARAGRAPH 2) TO REQUIRE THE RESPONDENT, IN THE FUTURE, TO COMPLY WITH SECTION 7114(A)(2) OF THE STATUTE. /2/ WHILE VALDEZ AND HERSCH ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT FARRELL DID INDICATE, IN THE MORNING SESSION, THAT THE UNION REPRESENTATIVE WOULD BE SO RESTRICTED DURING THE TAPING, RESPONDENT'S WITNESSES CONTROVERTED SUCH TESTIMONY. NOTE IS TAKEN THAT THE AFFIDAVIT OF FARRELL, INTRODUCED AS AN EXHIBIT HEREIN, ATTESTS TO THE FACT HE DID ADVISE HERSCH THAT THE LATTER COULD NOT SPEAK DURING THE TAPING. THE VERSION RECITED BY GENERAL COUNSEL'S WITNESSES IS CREDITED IN THIS REGARD. /3/ THOUGH FARRELL DENIES HE MENTIONED THAT DISCIPLINE MIGHT RESULT IF VALDEZ WAS NOT COOPERATIVE, HE STATED IN THIS AFFIDAVIT THAT "THERE WAS REASONABLE CAUSE TO BELIEVE THIS." THE UNDERSIGNED CREDITS THE TESTIMONY OF VALDEZ IN THIS REGARD. /4/ JUST PRIOR TO COMPLETING THE TAPED SESSION, FARRELL ASKED VALDEZ IF THERE WAS ANYTHING SHE WISHED TO ADD TO HER STATEMENT. NO SUCH QUESTION WAS ASKED AT THE INFORMAL INTERVIEW. /5/ IT DOES NOT APPEAR THAT FARRELL REFUSED TO ALLOW THE EMPLOYEE TO CONFER WITH HERSCH DURING THE TIME THAT THE TAPE WAS TURNED OFF, AND I MAKE NO SUCH FINDING. ACCORDINGLY, I FIND IT UNNECESSARY TO DETERMINE WHEN FARRELL ANNOUNCED HIS INTENTION BEFOREHAND TO TURN OFF THE TAPE SINCE IT WOULD NOT, IN MY OPINION, BE MATERIAL TO THE DECISION HEREIN. /6/ SEE TITLE VII OF THE CIVIL SERVICE REFORM ACT OF 1979, 96TH CONGRESS, 1ST SESSION, COMMITTEE PRINT NO. 96-7 (NOVEMBER 19, 1979) PP. 644, 651 824 AND 926. /7/ CF. A.T.&T. CO. AND COMMUNICATIONS WORKERS OF AMERICA, LOCAL 12150 AFL-CIO, NLRB CASE NO. 16CA 7855 (JD109-79) WHERE THE EMPLOYEE DID NOT REQUEST REPRESENTATION, RAISED NO OBJECTION TO THE PROCEDURE, AND HIS UNION AGENT MADE NO EFFORT TO SPEAK OUT. IN THE CASE AT BAR I AM SATISFIED THAT UNION REPRESENTATION WAS SOUGHT BY VIRTUE OF HERSCH'S CONTACTING FARRELL IN THIS REGARD. FURTHER, THE ROLE OF THE UNION REPRESENTATIVE HEREIN AT THE INVESTIGATION WAS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT THAN THAT EXHIBITED BY THE REPRESENTATIVE IN THE CITED CASE.